Monday, April 16, 2012

Does Strafe work well with Penetrate/Critial Strike/Pierce? :)

Hiya

Firstly, I've got a pretty cookie cutter build gear wise

Helm: Giant Skull - 2 Sockets & 35 Strength

Armor: Fortitude Archon Plate - 29 Res & 1.5 Life

Weapon: Faith Grand Matron Bow - 3 B&C - 2 Skill & 12 Fanat

Amulet: The Cat's Eye

Ring 1: Raven Frost +20 dex & 210 ar

Ring 2: Raven Frost +20 dex & 215 ar

Belt: Nosferatu's Coil 7% ll

Gloves: Amazon Gloves - 3 Bow/Crossbow Skills & 20% IAS

Boots: War Traveler 49% MF

Switch:

Weapon: Call to Arms Flail - 5 BO

Shield: Lidless Wall

Inventory:

Hellfire Torch: Amazon Hellfire 16 res 16 stats

Annihilus: Annihilus

I am a bowazon and i've tried it all , strafe, multi shot, guided arrow, even the odd magic arrow/cold arrow for physical immunes. I've found that i tend to just strafe 99 percent of the time, rendering the likes of multi shot obselete.

Based on my gear set up, assuming that i will maximise strafe and little else, how should i set my skils up? Something like this?

20 Valkerie

20 Strafe

20 Penetrate ?

1 point in everything else including pre-reqs

1.What about the other points?

2.Does Penetrate/Critical strike/Pierce work well with Strafe?

3. How important is evade/avoid/dodge?

4. which is the best skill vs physical immunes?

5.My resistance is barely over 0, how can i improve it?

Any advise will be welcome and appreciated

RolePlayer|||u should switch the gloves for either 2 p/m 20 ias stat gloves or LoH (better option imo)

what did u put in ur giant skull?

if u mainly use strafe, u should switch to goreriders too, as the cb and ds will help u out (ds less than cb, but still)

the cta is wasted on a bowa with that few plus skill imo, rather get titans plus mosers/sanctuary on switch for boss killing, u should have max block with any shield anyway

resistances aren�t important on a bowa, u are supposed not to get hit in the first place, but charms are usually the easiest option. what kind of charms do u use btw?

usually i use magic arrow vs PIs. with high enough dmg even a mid lvl magic arrow will kill them rather quickly. otherwise give ur merc a reapers toll

20 strafe is ok

20 valk is overkill -> 17 including plus skills, so something like 10 hard points should be needed with ur setup

dodge, evade and avoid (d/a/e) have diminishing return, which hit hard at around lvl 9 (more or less) so one hard point in any should make u reach that point, more would be wasted

cristical strike (cs) and pierce do have diminishing returns too. but u need to invest some more hard points to hit them, which u should. both lvl 16 imo including plus skills

with faith u prolly don�t have any ar problems, so only one point needed in penetrate. but if u do feel the need for more ar, max it

the other points can be dumped into the skills of ur choice, i�d either for max magic arrow, freezing arrow or charged strike & lightning fury for PIs|||Quote:








u should switch the gloves for either 2 p/m 20 ias stat gloves or LoH (better option imo)

are enough mobs demons to warrant loh? whats p/m 20ias?

what did u put in ur giant skull?

nothing so far, contemplating umx2 for resist , my resist in hell is 2

if u mainly use strafe, u should switch to goreriders too, as the cb and ds will help u out (ds less than cb, but still)

is that hard to find?

the cta is wasted on a bowa with that few plus skill imo, rather get titans plus mosers/sanctuary on switch for boss killing, u should have max block with any shield anyway

so i should hybrid ?

resistances aren�t important on a bowa, u are supposed not to get hit in the first place, but charms are usually the easiest option. what kind of charms do u use btw?

i use random charms... contemplating all resist charms now...

usually i use magic arrow vs PIs. with high enough dmg even a mid lvl magic arrow will kill them rather quickly. otherwise give ur merc a reapers toll

so javazon or magic arrow? either one right?

20 strafe is ok

20 valk is overkill -> 17 including plus skills, so something like 10 hard points should be needed with ur setup

dodge, evade and avoid (d/a/e) have diminishing return, which hit hard at around lvl 9 (more or less) so one hard point in any should make u reach that point, more would be wasted

cristical strike (cs) and pierce do have diminishing returns too. but u need to invest some more hard points to hit them, which u should. both lvl 16 imo including plus skills

with faith u prolly don�t have any ar problems, so only one point needed in penetrate. but if u do feel the need for more ar, max it

the other points can be dumped into the skills of ur choice, i�d either for max magic arrow, freezing arrow or charged strike & lightning fury for PIs




so it's a case of magic arrow vs charged strike/lightning fury?

thanks!|||i�ve seen some calculations, which imply that in total LoH increase the total dealt dmg by 33% or something like that...not sure anymore

2 p/m are passive/magic skill gloves. also blood crafted gloves with cb and life could be handy. the loh are specially nice because they give u 50% fr which is with light the most important res

for the sockets, did u check the ias breakpoint u need? u might want to socket 2 ias juwels in it and have other slots open up for something else (maybe the belt for a fhr str life res belt)

goreriders are easy to trade. worth less than ur travs and most of ur other equip. use to be worth a pul last ladder. not sure bout the price now

the main issue a bowa has imo is killing high life enemies such as diablo and baal. charged strike is the best boss killer there is on the other hand. if u have enough spare skill points, going hybrid is ur best option to solve that issue imo

for PIs it comes down to those options:

-2 ias jools in the helmet and use atams scarab instead for the amp proc

-use a reapers toll on ur merc for decrep proc

-cs & lf on switch

-magic arrow with whatever skill lvl u have (should be enough with ur equip) or max it|||Quote:








i�ve seen some calculations, which imply that in total LoH increase the total dealt dmg by 33% or something like that...not sure anymore

2 p/m are passive/magic skill gloves. also blood crafted gloves with cb and life could be handy. the loh are specially nice because they give u 50% fr which is with light the most important res

for the sockets, did u check the ias breakpoint u need? u might want to socket 2 ias juwels in it and have other slots open up for something else (maybe the belt for a fhr str life res belt)

goreriders are easy to trade. worth less than ur travs and most of ur other equip. use to be worth a pul last ladder. not sure bout the price now

the main issue a bowa has imo is killing high life enemies such as diablo and baal. charged strike is the best boss killer there is on the other hand. if u have enough spare skill points, going hybrid is ur best option to solve that issue imo

for PIs it comes down to those options:

-2 ias jools in the helmet and use atams scarab instead for the amp proc

-use a reapers toll on ur merc for decrep proc

-cs & lf on switch

-magic arrow with whatever skill lvl u have (should be enough with ur equip) or max it




Are most monsters in chaos/baalruns demons ? if so LOH is worth it .

i got no idea how to check my IAS breakpoint...

so gore > travs?

i think i will stick with bows... so magic arrow or the ice arrow?is there any diff?

thx again|||I decided with my zon just to forget all about piece and i just stuck myself with a razortail, the extra points aren't really needed but being able to have extra choices was nice.|||Quote:








I decided with my zon just to forget all about piece and i just stuck myself with a razortail, the extra points aren't really needed but being able to have extra choices was nice.




piece? pierce you mean.

razortail has pierce....|||Aint pierce highly over-rated?

Its sure nice if an arrow from a strafer pass the unit, but most of the time they aint in line or behind the target.

3-4 skills in it (with the +skillers) is prob enough if im not missing any hidden damage or anything besides,most of the times I found my old strafer just shooting 1-2 mobs that survived my hellish rapid-fire usually on eachother sides so all piecers ended up in the wall.

Also, you can NEVER overkill valk! ;D|||this is soo.. complicated...|||gores are the better choice for strafers, yes

magic arrow is better, if u have a high phys dmg, that can be converted to magic dmg, freezing arrow is better, if u have many skills left to dump them in that skill + synergy

many undeads and demons there, yes

a razortail gives u 33% pierce and u only need lvl 9 pierce to get to 100% pierce

pure bowas have lots of skills left usually, so not to have high pierce is wasted dmg potential. the chance of one arrow hitting 2 or more enemies will multiply the dmg u deal, specially when u face mobs. i�d never build a zon without it (mandatory for lightning fury and freezing arrow)

a valk needs lvl 17 for her having a rare elite weapon, more is not needed, because on that lvl she can tank almost everything. extra lvls won�t help much keeping her alive with the mobs she can�t tank at that point

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